Link Roundup #14: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

Hello Chinese Muslim food lovers! It’s time for our Chinese Muslim food link roundup! Hope you find the links as interesting as we do!

Mad for mala: how Singapore’s taste for halal Chinese food has taken off

“The halal food in Singapore is very different from Xinjiang. So, I decided to set up shop and introduce Xinjiang dishes to the Muslim community here,” the 48-year-old said. The Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, the westernmost part of China that is home to largely Muslim-minority Uygurs, is known for food that is distinct from the rest of the country, with dishes such as roasted mutton and the use of thick, fragrant spices.

Tan’s restaurant, Yi Zun Noodle, specialises in beef noodles, a popular dish in Xinjiang. When she first opened in 2017, 80 per cent of her customers were Muslim, but she has since seen a greater number of non-Muslim customers.

We are familiar with Yi Zun Noodle and we went there once before the lockdown began. They serve authentic Chinese Muslim cuisine, specifically the ones from Xinjiang province. Ever since then, we noticed there has been an increase of China-style Chinese Muslim restaurants opening up in Singapore.

So why is Singapore developing a taste for halal Chinese food? It could be like how it started out in Malaysia. About 10 years ago, it’s not as easy to find China-style Chinese Muslim restaurants in Malaysia. When Mee Tarik Warisan Asli came about and opened branches in various places, that’s when we saw more of such businesses opening up.

Related: [SG] Yizun Noodle, [MY] Mee Tarik Warisan Asli

Online Hari Raya bazaars to stay for now in Singapore

Associate professor Lim Beng Soon, from the School of Humanities and Behavioural Sciences at Singapore University of Social Sciences, said virtual bazaars are the safest option given the pandemic.

He added virtual bazaars will help people stay connected with their favourite stallholders even after the bazaars end.

Assistant Professor of Arts and Culture Management at the Singapore Management University, Hoe Su Fern, said virtual modes of gathering make culture accessible to a wider population across and beyond Singapore, but argued that online bazaars can never be a replacement for physical ones.

She said: “The Hari Raya bazaar is more than just a marketplace. It is an accessible social space that brings various communities and cultures together.”

“If physical bazaars do not ultimately return and stay online, we lose an accessible and common touchpoint for shared experiences.”The best stall, in our opinion, is an unassuming unit named Kampong House Mini Wok, which serves halal-certified zi char at very wallet-friendly prices.

Another piece of news from Singapore. Apparently, the Hari Raya bazaars would be held online again this year. We found out about this earlier this year and at one point, we even thought that maybe Malaysia would follow suit. Because let’s face it, Covid-19 is still here.

Then we found out that Ramadan bazaars set to make a return in KL and other cities in Malaysia. Obviously, this piece of news is good news to us! Because even though we’re selling most of our products on Shopee Malaysia and Shopee Singapore (more on that in our next post, insha’Allah!), there’s nothing more exciting than selling our products at Ramadan and Hari Raya bazaars.

Saudee Group inks deal with Top Standard Corporation to supply frozen meat to China

The Chinese halal foods market is deemed to be one of the largest growing food industry niche, expected to reach US$17 billion or RM69.7 billion per annum in 2021, second only to Indonesia at US$18 billion or RM73.8 billion.

With the current situation of the Covid-19 pandemic having its genesis in China in 2020, there is an immediate demand for non-locally manufactured halal food and products. 

Malaysian halal certification is deemed to be at the highest international standard, and the penetration to the Chinese muslim market is seen to be a natural expansion progression for Saudee Group to embark into.

Finding halal food in China can be difficult! So this is definitely something to look forward to. Hopefully, it’d be easier for the Muslims, both the ones staying in China and the ones travelling to China, to find proper halal food.

Alternatively, you could also read our post ‘A Guide To Finding Halal Food In China‘ for some ideas.

That concludes our link roundup for this month! Found any interesting links? Let us know in the comment section and we’ll include it in the next link roundup. Have a good April!

Link Roundup #13: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

Hello Chinese Muslim food lovers! It’s time for our Chinese Muslim food link roundup! Hope you find the links as interesting as we do!

New pride of royal town

SELANGOR’S first Chinese Muslim mosque with a three-storey pagoda that will serve as the minaret, is to be built in Klang.

The mosque, which will have elaborate Chinese architectural features, is inspired by the Great Mosque of Xi’an in China.

Xian is the capital of Shaanxi province.

The mosque will boast ornate carvings and will use less bricks in its construction as more wood is preferred for the walls, pillars and beams in its surrounding complex.

Nothing to do with Chinese Muslim food, though we are hoping there’s the possibility that Chinese Muslim food businesses would be given the opportunity to run their business near to this Chinese Muslim mosque. The reason is that usually whenever we go overseas, the easiest way to find halal food is to find the nearest mosque.

Since the mosque is fundamentally based on Chinese Muslim architecture and culture, we reckon it’s a good idea to have a handful of Chinese Muslim located within the vicinity. Muslims from other races and even visitors from other religions could probably learn a little more about the Chinese Muslim culture, and we know how food can be a great ice-breaker .

Taman Jurong Halal Zi Char Stall Has $8 Sliced Fish Steamboat & Har Cheong Gai

The best stall, in our opinion, is an unassuming unit named Kampong House Mini Wok, which serves halal-certified zi char at very wallet-friendly prices.

It has rice sets like Salted Egg Chicken ($5.50), Assam Batang Fish ($5.50) and Black Pepper Beef ($6.50) as well as San Lor Hor Fun ($5) and Seafood Fried Rice ($5.50). You can also get sides like Prawn Omelette ($6) and Petai with Sotong ($12).

It has probably been about 2 years since we went to Singapore. One thing’s for sure, the Chinese Muslim food business scene there is booming! We have a couple of friends who are running their own China-style Chinese Muslim food businesses there and they’re doing quite well. Related: [SG] Yizun Noodle, [SG] JinshangYipin Hot Pot By Asian Spyces

Having said that, it has been far too long since we had any halal zi char. Once we’re able to travel again, we’d love to visit Kampong House Mini Wok and try out their food.

Not visiting this Chinese New Year in Singapore? These restaurants and bars are staying open throughout

Hankering for prawn mee? Halal hawker chain Deanna’s Kitchen is keeping their Jurong East and Chai Chee outlets open throughout Chinese New Year, so you can get your fix of Prawn Mee ($4++) starring a slurpworthy prawn and anchovy broth. To double your laughter for the new year, chow down on the seriously umami Big Prawns & Clam Mee ($9).

Deanna’s Kitchen has branches in Jurong East, Toa Payoh, and Chai Chee. The Jurong East and Chai Chee outlets will be open throughout Chinese New Year from 10am–9pm, while the Toa Payoh outlet will be closed from 11 to 14 February 2021.

Okay, so in the entire article there’s only one halal Chinese Muslim food business. All the more reason to feature it in our link roundup! We’ve heard so much about Deanna’s Kitchen from friends in Singapore. Haven’t gotten the chance to try it though. For those who’ve tasted it, do share with us what you think about their prawn mee.

That concludes our link roundup for this month! Found any interesting links? Let us know in the comment section and we’ll include it in the next link roundup. Have a good March!

Link Roundup #12: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

Hello Chinese Muslim food lovers! It’s time for our Chinese Muslim food link roundup! Hope you find the links as interesting as we do!

【Chinese Muslim Food】HEZHOU RESTAURANT FOOD REVIEW, Setapak, KL

In this episode, Kate brings you awesome Chinese Muslim food in Setapak – HeZhou Restaurant. An authentic, halal Chinese Muslim restaurant with a brightly lit ambient setting that serves a wide range of dishes from delicious meat skewers, hand-pulled beef noodles, spicy dried fried chicken to soup dumplings. The restaurant has large VIP private rooms for private events and functions too!

Location: 66, Jalan 8/23e, Taman Danau Kota, 53300 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

We did a random Google the other day and came across this Eat With Kate‘s Youtube channel. We kid you not when we say we definitely felt tempted to visit Hezhou Restaurant after watching the video. Plus it makes us miss those good old days of going to restaurants with family and friends. It’s always nice to gather around and catch up over a delicious meal.

Related: [MY] Hezhou Restaurant

Black-Owned Halal Fusion Chinese Restaurant in North Philly! Is this the first of it’s kind?

In this episode I visit Halal Fusion Chinese restaurant located on 2748 Germantown ave, Philadelphia, Pa. Owned by Father and Son who are set out to bring that traditional chinese food experience but with a halal experience to fit their Islamic culture. How authentic was this Halal Chinese Food?

Pretty interesting video and we love how they spoke about authentic Halal Chinese food. The fact that they make their own homemade sauces and rolls make this even more amazing because back here in Malaysia, it’s easy to grab premade sauces from the supermarkets. Personally, we prefer homemade sauces as we can control what goes in it. Add in more of the good stuff, omit most of the bad stuff.

WHERE TO FIND HALAL CHINESE FOOD IN KUALA LUMPUR

Hey, i’m Mahmud! I’m from Malaysia and i like to travel and eat . So I started making food and travel videos to document my experiences. I hope people enjoyed watching my videos. Thus, more food reviews will be coming up to my channel so stay tuned guys ✨

Let’s see, we know Mr Dumpling, but that XInjiang Mi Tarik Hotpot restaurant is new to us. From the looks of it, seems like it’s the same restaurant. Random Googling didn’t help much, then again we weren’t really Googling about it. We’ll probably do another post on this once we’ve gotten more information. Let us know if you’ve been to this place!

Related: [MY] Mr Dumpling

That concludes our link roundup for this month! Found any interesting links? Let us know in the comment section and we’ll include it in the next link roundup. Have a good February!

Link Roundup #10: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

Hello Chinese Muslim food lovers! It’s time for our Chinese Muslim food link roundup! Hope you find the links as interesting as we do!

Local Kopitiam With No Halal Cert Inspected After Customers Complained About Muslim Patrons

“The examination result found that the premise has no Muslim cook and ingredients used also has no Halal certificate. Muslims are urged to avoid visiting food premises without Halal certificate,” the statement reads in part.

This inspection was made after complaints were filed that Muslims often visited the restaurant even though the kopitiam uses all halal ingredients and is pork-free.

We came across this piece of news on Twitter recently. Besides the World Of Buzz article, Says posted a similar piece entitled ‘JHEAINS Inspects A Kuala Pilah Kopitiam After Complaints That It Is Frequented By Muslims‘.

If you were to read the articles, you can easily find two views. One supports the move, whereas another opposes it. What’s our stand on this? Equip yourself with adequate knowledge. Related: Guide: How to Find a Halal Restaurant In Malaysia and A Guide To Finding Halal Food In China

Wok king, Chef Amann Teoh is cooking up a HALAL storm with his new Chinese street food restaurant!

Chef Amann, who started his culinary career at his grandfather’s restaurant at the age of 20, has travelled and worked in many countries prior to settling down in Malaysia. “This job has brought me to Shanghai, Hong Kong, London, Australia, Amsterdam (and some parts of Europe), Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, Papua New Guinea and Macau,” shares the culinary veteran.

Adding, he says: “My journey as a chef has taught me much. I’m grateful that now I have a greater knowledge and know-how of halalan toyyiban Chinese cooking, and I can whip up anything from street food to banquet dining, all the while maintaining the original taste.”

We shared this in our previous blog post and we thought, why not share it again and include the contact details too? So here you go!

C.A.T Wok Street Food: Opening on January 11, 2021

Location: D-7-G, Bangi Gateway, Persiaran Pekeliling, Seksyen 15, Bandar Baru Bangi, Selangor

Opening hours: Saturday to Thursday — 11am to 11pm, Friday — 3pm to 11pm

Phone: 018 3998336

Why Muslim entrepreneurs should obtain halal certification

According to the statistics in Malaysia, 60 per cent of halal certificate applicants are non-Muslim entrepreneurs.

Don’t be surprised if some Muslim restaurants find it difficult to become halal certified. It is worth pointing out again that most of the restaurants that apply for halal certification are non-Muslim owned restaurants.

They have found that the halal certification is valuable and benefits them greatly. The halal certification is related to Halalan Thoyyiban, which goes beyond an absence of pork and alcohol, and covers other aspects such as slaughtering, cleanliness and safety.

As Muslim food entrepreneurs, we definitely know the importance of getting our food business Halal certified. Our focus is not much on the marketing aspect, rather, we are more keen on getting that level of trust and credibility that comes with the certification. This is a good article if you’re new to the whole Halal certificate concept within the Malaysian context.

That concludes our link roundup for this month! Found any interesting links? Let us know in the comment section and we’ll include it in the next link roundup. Have a good January!

Link Roundup #9: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

Hello Chinese Muslim food lovers! It’s time for our Chinese Muslim food link roundup! Hope you find the links as interesting as we do!

Crispy chicken cracklings the star ingredient in this halal Hokkien mee in Petaling Jaya

“Cooking Hokkien mee isn’t easy, because one factor is the lard and oil. The other is the ‘wok hei’, and no two chefs, even if you ask them to cook the same dish, will have the same result,” she added.

“(If) his brother, who’s a chef at a seafood restaurant, and his sister cook Hokkien mee, the results are all different, because of the ratio of sauce, your technique and ‘wok hei,’” Ooi explained. 

Many people have written about Abang Jamal, who’s also known as Ah Mang. Don’t believe us? Let’s list the top 3 articles, shall we?

You can even find him on YouTube, but we’ll let you do the searching on your own. So how good is his Hokkien Mee? Within our circle of Chinese revert friends, we know quite a lot of them have tried his food and they can’t stop raving about it. Authentic taste, at a good price. We haven’t tried it though. Planning to include a quick trip to his stall in our bucket list for 2021, insha’Allah.

Famous Halal Dishes in China

It is said that a lof of Sichuan people came to Xinjiang for making a living. Many of them engaged in manual labor and required economical meals to support their hard work. After researching, the “Big Plate Chicken” finally appeared.

The article lists 6 of the famous halal dishes in China – Big Plate Chicken, Sautéed Lamb Slices With Scallion, Kebab, Lamian, Beef Noodle Soup and Nang. Since we’ve tried all, perhaps you’re wondering which one is the best. ALL! We love all of them! We’re not making this easy for you, are we?

Chilies, Noodles, and Lamb: 11 Must-Eat Dishes in Xi’an From the Muslim Quarter and Beyond

Located at the terminus of the Silk Road and at one time the cultural and political capital of China, the city of Xi’an in Shaanxi province has one of the more interesting culinary histories in China, in no small part due to the influence of its large Muslim population.

Now, in this particular article, the writer specifically mentions the 11 must-eat dishes in Xi’an from the Muslim quarter and beyond. A pretty long article, with loads of salivating pictures and vivid descriptions. Definitely worth the time, especially when you’re an avid foodie. This time around, we’ll share our top favorites hand-stretched noodles, beef or lamb roujiamo, liangpi noodles, fried potatoes, mutton dumplings and bread and mutton soup. How much do we love these dishes? Whenever the cravings kick in, we’ll do a bold attempt to make the simpler ones at home.

That concludes our link roundup for this month! Found any interesting links? Let us know in the comment section and we’ll include it in the next link roundup. Have a good December!

Link Roundup #8: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

Hello Chinese Muslim food lovers! It’s time for our Chinese Muslim food link roundup! Hope you find the links interesting!

Laotai Arui

Hi Brothers and sisters.I am ARUI. I am a Muslim woman. I come from Yunnan, China. This is a beautiful and magical land. Many ethnic minorities live here. We Hui are one of them. On my channel I will tell friends Chinese traditional halal food cooking. Every dish I try to provide halal recipes. Hope friends From my video Understand China Understanding Yunnan Understanding Chinese Muslims. May Allah bless you with good health and success .

Can you imagine how excited we were when we found Laotai Arui’s Youtube channel? It’s like the first Chinese Muslim from China channel that focuses on making Chinese Muslim food Liziqi style! The best part is she shares the recipes in English, so this is great news for those keen on learning authentic Chinese Muslim food recipes.

Miriam In China

Hi, I’m Miriam Follin, from Sweden. In 2015 I moved to China for an exchange semester, but when the time was up I didn’t want to leave, so I stayed. Now, in 2018, I am living with my Chinese husband Yonghong in his hometown in rural Qinghai (a northwestern province). Here on my channel, I share travels, life and people’s stories from China. And I tend to focus on the small, slow and green things.

The Miriam In China channel is another euphoric and interesting find. Miriam is currently staying in Qinghai Province, and that’s where K is from! Watching her channel reminds us of our family there and we just love how she brings out the best of Qinghai. The food, sights, and sounds, the culture, just about everything is so familiar to us. She’s recently launched her soap business and we’re rooting her for it. All the best Miriam!

And yes, we do know this link is not related to Chinese Muslim food. However, she’s residing in Qinghai, which has a good population of Chinese Muslims. The lifestyle that she shows on her channel is quite similar to the lifestyle of Chinese Muslims in rural parts of Qinghai, food included.

DeZhuang德庄 Hotpot

De Zhuang established in 1999.In over 900+ restaurants around the world, DeZhuang uses the arts of delicious food to promote the unique charm of the ChongQing Food Culture to the world. We are provide DeZhuang hot pot base and all sauce.

DeZhuang is a famous hotpot brand in China and get this, their hotpot bases are Halal-certified by the Halal Certification Services of Chongqing and in accordance with the standards set by JAKIM Malaysia MS1500:2009. We bought the double flavors hotpot bases via their Shopee store and tried the mala flavor earlier this week. Tastes so good!

Please take note that they’ve opened a restaurant in Kuala Lumpur. However, the restaurant serves pork and is not Halal-certified.

That concludes our link roundup. Found any interesting Chinese Muslim food links lately? Share it with us in the comments box!

Link Roundup #7: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

And we just realized it’s been months since we did our monthly link roundup. Bluntly speaking, with the many things going around the world right now, we haven’t gone digging for the latest Chinese Muslim food news. But hey! We can’t wait until everything goes back to ‘normal‘, can we? Besides, what’s normal anyway?

Let’s do some digging around!

‘We Want to Help the World Better Understand China.’ Meet Chen Xiaoqing, the Film Director Using Food to Make Friends

The third season, set in China’s central Gansu province, debuts on Netflix next month. Gansu is a thin strip of territory stretching more than a thousand kilometers from dunes in the north to lush mountains in the south. It also boasts a significant Muslim minority. “So they have really different types of food that reflect the local terrain and [cultures],” says the filmmaker

We have friends from Gansu but we can’t say the food is that different really. Having said that, they are mostly known for their Lanzhou Beef Noodles. Just about every Malaysian should know this dish since Mi Tarik Warisan Asli is a huge chain in Malaysia and their specialty is the beef noodles.

As for the series, we haven’t watched it and it’s mainly because we don’t have Netflix. But if you watched it, do let us know how it’s like. Would love to know if it’s any good.

How Chinese fried noodles by a Muslim hawker became a hit in India’s biggest slum

MUMBAI: In the middle of Dharavi, one of Asia’s largest slums, there is a popular Chinese fried noodle dish which has been given a unique Indian spin.

Sohrab’s Chow Mein is this curious half-Indian, half-Chinese hybrid dish of yellow noodles stir-fried in a wok with cabbage, green capsicum and flavoured with an oddly bright-red Manchurian sauce.

It’s the brainchild of slum resident Sohrab, who had previously worked in a Chinese restaurant.

Now this is a feel good article. There’s just something inspiring about how someone comes up with an idea, no matter how crazy it may sound, and eventually pulling it through!

Vendors like Sohrab keep their prices cheap for the poorer residents. “I cook because I love people. It’s okay if you don’t have the money to pay for the food. You can still eat at my stall,” he said.

And this bit right here has all the feels. Like the guy sells his Indian-inspired-Chinese-dishes at cheap prices to help the poor and still manages to send his kids to school! That’s the barakah effect in fruition! May Allah SWT ease all of his affairs and accept his kindness, ameen!

Eating in Xi’an, Where Wheat and Lamb Speak to China’s Varied Palate

Within Xi’an, Hui and Han alike eat roujiamo, the Chinese hamburger: meat tucked into flatbread that’s been crisped on the grill until it shows tiger skin on one side — shades of orange and black — and a chrysanthemum whorl on the other. The Han make it with long-braised pork, doused with a spoonful of its own broth, and the Hui with beef or lamb, stewed, then salted and dried.

Thought-provoking. The article provides a glimpse of old China, the history of the Hui Chinese, Chinese food, and how the country became how it is today. Pretty long read, yet easy to comprehend.

That concludes our link roundup for this month! Hope you enjoy reading the articles! And if you found any interesting links, leave it in the comment below and we’ll include it in the next link roundup.

Link Roundup #6: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

It’s that time again for another round of interesting Chinese Muslim food links! So we’ve been scouring the net, looking for the latest juicy news. What makes this month’s link roundup a little different from previous link roundups is, we decided to feature news from Malaysia. Why? Let’s say we want to show some love to the place that we call home.

Here are our top picks for this month!

Chef Hassan Heng Chinese Muslim Food 

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1st kelas 2020 . kelas yang dinanti-nanti oleh peminat masakan cina 🤗 .

Detail kelas seperti di bawah yer. kelas hands off. memang berbaloi baloi sangat join kelas ini sebab sebelum ni normal fee untuk 1 resepi sahaja bagi personal class rm300++ .

Tapi kali ini chef open 4 resepi Mee hanya RM300/pax ! Jimat banyakk!

Resepi asal masakan cina,teknik masak yang betul akan diajar, yang penting pelbagai ‘tips & rahsia’ masakan cina akan diberikan.

macam biasa sekiranya ada peserta minimun 15 orang baru chef akan open kelas ni. so siapa yang berminat boleh lock seat terlebih dahulu yer.

Date : 12 Januari 2020(Ahad)

Masa : 9.30 pagi – selesai

Tempat : Mama Salmi Kopitiam,Taipan 2 Setia Alam

pertanyaan dan pendaftaran

www.wasap.my/60164489080/kelasMee

 

In case you haven’t noticed, it’s not that difficult to find Chinese Muslim food in Malaysia. In fact, it becomes even more easier if you go to the bigger cities like Kuala Lumpur and Johor Bahru.

But the downside is, the price point can be a bit high. And yes, it may not be as easy to locate if you’re not familiar with the place.

What would be the next best option? Learn how to cook your own Chinese Muslim food! Chef Hassan Heng conducts tonnes of Chinese Muslim food cooking classes and you can use these newfound skills to cook for your family and friends. Feeling entrepreneurial? Maybe you can start your own Chinese Muslim food business!

Visit their Facebook page or whassap them for their latest schedule.

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Link Roundup #5: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

Still in the Chinese New Year mood? So are we! We’ve been reading up some news about the Chinese food industry and decided to dedicate this month’s link roundup entirely on hotpots. Hope you find these links as interesting as we did!

You shouldn’t eat hotpot more than once a month – and the worst broths include seafood and chicken, local hospital warns

“Sorry for the bad news, but hotpot isn’t healthy for you, according to Mount Alvernia Hospital.

Just three slices of pork belly contain the same number of calories as a curry puff.

Drinking 100ml of any popular hotpot broth immediately causes you to exceed your daily maximum sodium intake.

Eating 10 processed items (fishballs, meatballs, sausages, luncheon meat) has the same effect.

If you can’t make healthy choices, then you should only eat hotpot once or twice a month.”

Hotpots are common in K’s hometown, although they usually have it during the cold weather. The hot soup helps to warm them up, plus it’s nice to gather with the family and eat everything from the same pot. Unlike the items that are commonly served in hotpot restaurants here, their family usually puts in a lot of vegetables in theirs.

If you happen to go to a Chinese Muslim restaurant that offers hotpot as one of their menu items, then you should read this article. Best to limit yourselves to one or two hotpot sessions a month, or pick healthier options, like clear soups and vegetables, if you decide to have it more frequently.
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Link Roundup #4: Top 3 Chinese Muslim Food Links

To kickstart the new year, we’re sharing 3 of the best Chinese Muslim food industry’s content for 2020. Hope you find this insightful!

Our top picks:

Irreplaceable food of Chinese Muslim kitchen: Lamien

“Prepared with halal ingredients including rice, chicken, vegetables, soy, onions and coriander, lamien is an indispensable ingredient of the Chinese Muslim kitchen”

When K first came to Malaysia, he was eager to try lamian at just about every Chinese Muslim restaurant he can find. He grew up eating it and it’s a staple food in most households at his place. I guess the feeling is similar to us in the sense that we’re always looking for rice or Malaysian dishes when we’re overseas.
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